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    I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    2.3 Inductor on the LF. 9.1 cap on the HF. 9.1 cap/15 ohm resistor for the LF zobel and a 2uf cap across the hf wires. It's the only choice I have short of having them not sound good. 515's are garbage much above 1000hz. Still deafening and still working. even being driven with my 90 watt SS amp.

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    Edit: I changed the HF cap to 9.1uf
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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    Original 604's were crossed at 1000(and are to this day perhaps the best sounding 604 particularly through the XO region).
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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    I cross my g's at 1250, but I try to be very careful with the volume knob...

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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    Quote Originally Posted by juniper View Post
    I cross my g's at 1250, but I try to be very careful with the volume knob...
    Unless you're running a mild slope like 6db/oct, you're probably safer than you think.

    I'm not saying you should try to push your 300 watt amp to clipping on them, but i think your ears will tell you when you're stepping on the danger threshold.
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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    Cradeldorf
    I never did think of the 1600 XO freq as golden.To me the magic was how it sounds. If you would like to do some listening tests PM me.
    Don

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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    A buddy stopped over today and confirmed that they sound better than he's ever heard. Like I said over on AK if a 515 is indeed what the woofer section is, they are rated at 20-1000hz why they mated that with a horn that shouldn't be driven below 1600 is beyond me. Juniper All I'm gonna say is mine go well into the ear splitting level without batting an eye. I can almost hear them laughing.
    Don they sound much more like they should this way.

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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    I've read that 604 E to the last sectoral before the CD types were only providing driver loading to about 1900 Hz but the Altec standard Xover is 1600 Hz

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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    Quote Originally Posted by zelgall View Post
    I've read that 604 E to the last sectoral before the CD types were only providing driver loading to about 1900 Hz but the Altec standard Xover is 1600 Hz
    I could never grasp the concept of loading since the phragm is barely moving in the first place and then every bit of air it is moving has to pass through 3 little human hair sized slits in the phase plug?
    I can't imagine I could load the horn if I put my lips on the phase plug and blew as hard as I could. That is if my definition of loading means building some kind of back pressure from the air trapped in the horn tube and horn assembly itself. I would surely think the phase plug is what provides loading if there is to be any.
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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    Quote Originally Posted by cradeldorf View Post
    I could never grasp the concept of loading since the phragm is barely moving in the first place and then every bit of air it is moving has to pass through 3 little human hair sized slits in the phase plug?
    Think of the diaphragm that is like a tuning fork.When you wrap on the edge of the tuning fork it puts out a lot of sound but you won't see it moving much.It is the tremendous amount of vibrations in such a short time that creates the output or (SPL).Or something like that.

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    Re: I'm running my 604's at a crossover point of 1150.

    Quote Originally Posted by Altec Best View Post
    Think of the diaphragm that is like a tuning fork.When you wrap on the edge of the tuning fork it puts out a lot of sound but you won't see it moving much.It is the tremendous amount of vibrations in such a short time that creates the output or (SPL).Or something like that.
    Okay, that draws a better picture in my head. Thanks.

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